CO2 pistols

[coletrain44]

I am considering buying a CO2 pistol.  I would love to get a KWA but as far as I know, they don't make any for CO2.  Since I already have a 1911 gas pistol I'm looking for a glock style.  On Evike I'm stuck between the ISSC M-22 blowback and the APS ACP blowback.

ISSC M-22:
    slightly cheaper
    metal outer barrel
    can't find spare mags anywhere

APS ACP:
    spare mags available
    strange way of putting in CO2 capsule
    orange plastic outer barrel (but black metal one is available)
    comments on Evike aren't consistent whether it's good or bad


I don't know when spare mags will be available for the ISSC or if they will at all.

Any suggestions?  Or reasons why I should stay away from CO2?

Thanks
    Cole Wiker

[Simon]

KWA doesn't sell primarily CO2 guns, they do however sell CO2 mags for their Glock style pistols. Here are the CO2 KWA Glock MagsAll it took was a quick search on Evike.

[Chubbs]

I've heard that It can be VERY difficult to get crosman 12g C02 cartridges in the APS ACP.

[darth]

Those co2 mags for the KWA guns only last for a very short time. Then don't work at all. I personally have been looking at the aps acp. The way you put in the gas seems like a better system than the current way co2 mags work. The aps is also tm compatible. Which mean we also. So there are ton of options.

[Simon]

TM compatible does not necessarily mean WE compatible. There is Hi-Capa compatible and TM compatible. I'm not seeing any mention of parts compatibility on Evike.

[maxooolm4guy]

Why not just buy a WE or other brand glock from overseas?

[Derpy]

the only problem I've had with my c02 mag for my Kwa glock is the seal, but i just put a small O-ring on it and it works great.

[darth]

Derpy I have gone through 4 of these mags now. And they all have failed. I'll give the one remaining one I have to who ever wants it. Because I have tried and tried to get them working again and they just don't function correctly. And from all I have seen all we glock style pistols are all tm compatible. Because we are tm clones. There is pretty much only 2 types of glocks out there. KWA/KSC. And the tm style. We,stark arms,aps,hfc

Link to mag. Clearly says fits tm and we
www.mainirishairsoft.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=1166.

[Derpy]

Have you ever tried and Ra-Tech co2 mag? Because that's what I use

[darth]

The RAT mags are the only co2 mags available for KWA pistols. So yes. And they have all failed with in a month or 2. Like I said you can have mine if you want.

[coletrain44]

probably gonna get the ACP cuz it has spare mags and good reviews

[darth]

I wish I would have seen that AMS had th aps acp for $50 off on Friday. Oh well.

[Chubbs]

The ISSC does have spare mags...

Taken straight from evike.

Dimensions: 185mm x 130mm
Muzzle Velocity: 280~300 FPS (Measured w/ 0.20g BBs and CO2 Gas)
Magazine: 25rd CO2. Works with WE, TM and other compatible G19 / G17 Series Airsoft GBB Magazines
Gas Type: 12g CO2 Cartridge (sold separately)
Firing Mode: Semi Automatic, Safety
System: Gas Blowback
Hopup: Yes, Adjustable
Package Includes: Gun, Magazine

[Shadsquatch]

Seeing as the ISSC is made by WE-TECH, I believe it is safe to assume it takes all WE compatible mags. That being said, I have no experience with WE-TECH CO2 powered pistols, But there Green Gas pistols are nothing to write home about. I had two WE guns and neither of them lasted longer than 6 months. So I would stay away from them. I'm not sure if you have thought about it, but my KWA Green Gas pistol works just fine in the colder weather. The only difference I have noticed is a drop in gas efficiency. If your set on CO2 however, I would get the ACP. I have heard good things about it so far. Regarding the CO2 mags for a KWA, It will wear down on the gun a lot quicker and wouldn't be as reliable. CO2 has a higher pressure than green gas and many guns can't handle the excess pressure for very long.

[fergus]

I own a APS ACP and I can tell you that it will NOT accept Crossman CO2 cartridges. For some reason Crossman are a tad too wide. I've tried Daisy CO2 cartridges and they work but are still a snug fit.