Loaf
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Post by Loaf on Jan 17, 2013 18:20:33 GMT -5
Ive shot military issue m16, Thompson .45, a couple glocks, some .22s, a Taurus 9m, aannnnnddd, THE BARRET .50 CAL!!!!!! (: (:
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Post by Raptor on Jan 17, 2013 19:50:54 GMT -5
Ive shot military issue m16, Thompson .45, a couple glocks, some .22s, a Taurus 9m, aannnnnddd, THE BARRET .50 CAL!!!!!! (: (: question was it a light weight 50 or is it the full.weight one that weights like 100+ pounds but back on topic Ilike the way you can interchange everything on m4s and parts aren't ungodly expensive bad part is they might be banning them  |
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Post by Loaf on Feb 6, 2013 20:55:04 GMT -5
it was the barett .50 cal, bullpup, about 30 pounds
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Post by lightning on Feb 21, 2013 11:20:03 GMT -5
M4, better range, better accuracy on a point target, more attachments and modifications. Plus it's Merica"! Bull, with my AR15 at 100 yards I can put them all in the chest with iron sights with my AK with iron sights I can put them all in the the head. Also you have more knock down power with the .30 cal, with the AR if you don't clean it every night in the field odds are it will jam but not so with the AK I've talk to people who have seen 100,000+ rounds fired from AK and they said they could count on one hand how many jams they have seen, and the ammo is dirt cheap (at least it was before all this gun control talk started but we won't get in to that) the only thing that would make the AK better was if it was an American gun, but it was based on the stg44 which is German the next best thing. |
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Post by slacker on Feb 21, 2013 13:13:56 GMT -5
Fired and maintained both guns, as a member of my family has a Class 3. I can say this they both do have their ups and down, right now finding ammo for either platform is difficult, but I have been able to find more rounds fiting the AKM, And other AK varients.
If I needed a survival weapon with fully automatic fire (Which to me is useless, and I prefer an SKS for this role anyway, or my M14, but that also looses out for the following reason.) I would choose an AKM. Why? Why would I choose an ugly beast of a rifle? Simple, I can feild strip the gun and keep it clean and running for along time, with a simple field strip. The M4 / M16 family of rifles, unless you are shooting very clean ammo, and even then most be fully disassembled and cleaned as buildup will quickly begin to show within the rifle. For example I can buy dirty crappily packaged 7.62 rounds and fire them out of the AKM all day. 500+ rounds. The M4 firing the same quility round, the most commonly found on shelves right now when they are in the tullip(sp?) round. (I do not use these, but the guy who shoots with me does) He gets to that 500 round mark, and the gun is jamming, the mags a jamming, the bolt is double feeding etc etc etc, but up to that mark it works well.
While the M4 is the weapon that is easier to learn accurate shooting with. My AKM can blow right through common building materials like cinderblock.
All in all I buy rifles for survival purposes, and neither of these guns is built for that. If you want a practical weapon that you may actually have to rely on some day I suggest staying away from all of these weapons and going with an SKS, M14, M1 Garand, etc. A semi automatic, reliable, long lasting, rifle built for firing and hitting the target on round one or two.
IMO and I have shoot them all at machine gun shoots and the like the ACR, and SCAR are simuliar but more modifiable versions of the M4 and can come off as redundent. The Scar-H is a different story, love that weapon (I assume it still has the same cleaning issue as the M4 though, these military guns are designed to be fired, with slight maintenence in the feild, followed by a throughout cleaning by the armory staff when turning the weapon in on RTB.
Rant over. Haters hate, potatoes potate.
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